Just How Easy is it for NZ to Become a State of Australia?

If you watched ONE News tonight you would’ve heard about this. This is in the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution:

Definitions
The Commonwealth shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia
as established under this Act.
The States shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales,
New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia,
and South Australia, including the northern territory of South
Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth,
and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or
established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts
of the Commonwealth shall be called a State.

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  • Dolce4Life

    I hope we become part of ozzie! Actually i dont think NZ is kewl enough..but then we would have an iTunes music store!

  • Jacob

    Yeah, they had a similar piece on 3 News about Australia and New Zealand merging.

    New Zealand was one of seven Australasian colonies prior to Federation in 1901.

    For more: Yahoo!7

  • toggerlogger

    I hope we don’t become part of Australia from a personal view.
    Of course, from a government and business perspective it would be good, in terms of trade etc. However, it would mean having to go with Australias laws, and theyre not exactly the best when it comes to Human Rights.
    And the constitution is still valid, however with NZ having been an independent country for a century, it would supercede anything else that may be in the constitution.

  • campgrrls

    I agree with toggerlogger that there are pros and cons about NZ becoming part of Aussie. Right now I think most Kiwis would like NZ to retain its sovereignty. Most of the discussion is about the sort of economic union that Europe has – maybe including some Pacific nations in a union with Aussie & NZ.

    The quote above from the Aus Constitution, out of context, gives the wrong impression. All the states that were part of the Australasian Colonies were invited to join the Australian Commonwealth. But each colonial Parliament had to agree, and then they had to have a referendum. Only a sufficient majority in that vote could result in becoming part of Aussie. NZ declined to join after 1981.

    http://www.treatyofwaitangi.govt.nz/timeline/nz1900.php

    http://www.foundingdocs.gov.au/item.asp?dID=11

    As each was a ‘sovereign’ colony, with a Governor appointed by the Crown on the advice of the British Government, each colonial Parliament had to pass legislation agreeing to become part of the Commonwealth, and then hold referendums where all electors could have a direct vote on the issue.

    Also the Preamble to the Aussie Constitution, which includes the quote at the top of this thread about NZ being one of the states, also starts by saying this:

    http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/preamble.htm

    An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia. [9th July 1900]

    (The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom at Westminster)

    Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:

    3. It shall be lawful for the Queen, with the advice of the Privy Council, to declare by proclamation that, on and after a day therein appointed, not being later that one year after the passing of this Act, the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, and also, if Her Majesty is satisfied that the people of Western Australia have agreed thereto, of Western Australia, shall be united in a Federal Commonwealth under the name of the Commonwealth of Australia. But the Queen may, at any time after the proclamation, appoint a Governor-General for the Commonwealth.

  • Dina

    I would hate to be a part of Australia,isn’t Australia big enough already?
    And they have already claimed so many things from NZ as their own,they don’t need to steal our country as well!

  • Anonymous

    I would love to see New Zealand become part of Australia,what a wealthy country ! eg: if there were embargos placed on their shores they could survive quite nicely .Could we? No of course not.I liked the fact that they stuck to their guns when it came to cars and supported their own industry”Holden”,, kiwis verrbalise their patriotic stance.the doing..seems to be quite a different matter sadly we have become complacent and very boring,Zealanders love to travel they split as soon as they can finacially sound or not,Oze has well and truely woken up to us and we are not as popular as we would like too think we are,whereas once aupon a time all one had to say was Im a kiwi and u were employedon the spot!!.You do not see alot of Aussies settling here permanently,they ooh and aah over our scenery but thats about it! try our native kai but one can only eat soo much of a boil up. When i go over to Sydney or Melbourne there is so much variety in cusine and its affordable, here theres no dinners for $4.50 at the local club and they really really look after their elderly,we can’t be bothered with them,we say we do but the Government doesn;t thats the way i see it here, we need abit of oze here not cheap labout like indians -iraqs- somalians-christ! they like too fight one another!! (We’ve got enoughof that amongst our own kind)What next Helen!& co next I’l be told that you pay certain individuals too come here and in turnfor the favour they rope in their own kind .

  • campgrrls

    We may not be all that great in a lot of things… but at least we have plenty of water.

  • toggerlogger

    And the fact we have plenty of water, and Australia has none, is a fact that exporters haven’t quite woken up to yet.
    I reckon Water will be the new oil in the next 20 years….

  • campgrrls

    Exactly what many commentators say toggerlogger…. tho many say it’ll become important earlier than in 20 years. And what with many saying the US failure in Iraq and the crisis of the US dollar signal the US empire is crumbling….. this all suggests that we are entering a whole new system of values worldwide.

  • toggerlogger

    Remember when the sun never set on the British Empire?
    And Brittania ruled the waters, and most of the world?

    And look what happened to good old Britain.
    No longer is it the powerhouse of earth. I think that Americas time has come – now that the EU has most member countries on board, it will be time for the world to wake up to Europe. I personally think it is wrong of economists and soothsayers to predict China will be the next big powerhouse..

    How a communist country of 1.3billion + counting people, with only a few million people per city working, and countless more in poverty, will be the next big economic powerhouse, is very hard to see.

    However, it is still worth exploring the notion that not all economists have totally given up on the idea of NZ being the main economic centre. Wall St to Wellington? Not hard to believe it would happen given we are the first in the world to see a new day… and of course, 24 hour trading is already here, and not to mention the benefits to shareholders having a new day dawn half a world away…

  • Zpete

    Dolce4Life,
    If Itune shop is your priority, I guess NZ is in a baaaaaad way. Seeing so many blank faces wandering around with wires dangling from their ears, makes me think jules Verne’s “Time Machine” has arrived.
    I also wonder if you have been to Australia.
    If you haven’t, ya betta getta ticket fast. You will be quite grateful to get back to NZ.
    I lived 9 years in Melbourne, just returned from the smokey city.
    Many Kiwis do not realise how well off we are.

  • Tui

    OMG this isn’t happening is it?

  • campgrrls

    Yes, Zpete, I agree. I lived in Sydney for a few years and London for even more years before that. When I left NZ I was like Anonymous: extremely critical of everything in NZ. But I learned that other places have just as many faults, and NZ will always feel like home to me. And I like the things that make NZ different from those other places.

    I love both Sydney and London and like a lot of things about both the UK & Aussie. But Aussie does have real problems with natural forces. I also lived in Sydney when it was covered in smoke from Summer fires. I suffered thru one of it’s wild storms during my last winter there. My roof/ceiling was opened up with a large number of leaks like many other buildings/homes int he city.

    Incompetence of the State Emergency Services (SES) resulted in my roof not getting covered by a tarpaulin for 2 weeks. So for 2 weeks I had my floor covered with little tarps and buckets and other containers around the place to catch the water. All my stuff was piled up around the place in spots where there were no leaks. I rigged up a mini tarp over my bed and crawled under it to sleep each night.

    Each day I rang the SES to ask what was happening. In the end I realised the SES thought it was the job of the fire service to cover my roof & vice versa. I asked to speak to the person in charge and went off at her. She look at theie log & realised I was one of the first to ask for help & one of the last to get it. Within a day 2 lots of SES arrived to cover my roof.

    Dion’t tell me things are done any better by the authorities in Aussie than in NZ. But I still like Aussie & enjoy visiting it.But I also love living here.