28 Jan, 07

Off topic | Rants

Kerre Woodham wants no anonymous comments/blogs

In today's Herald on Sunday, Kerre Woodham calls for the CYFS blog to be shut down "along with any site that doesn't identify its contributors."

It's an incredible extreme point of view and as David Farrar points out, "The irony is that there is a Government which is considering exactly what Kerre has called for. They are considering whether they should make all their citizens blog under their real names. That's the People's Republic of China!"

There's many legitimate reasons why people leave anonymous comments and ironically ZB allows callers to use false names or be anonymous when being interviewed. TV interviews people sometimes anonymously, with their faces blacked out and voices altered.

What do you think about her comment?


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dias

I think it could on been on Sunday
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he

ummm how odd
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he

How very odd, the interest in the thread takes a very interesting turn when I found the CYF stands for "Child Youth and Family" ( not too sure how CYF relates to TV programs.

Relating to this web site forum, I get really p*****d off when I go to the trouble to log on then some "anonymous FW" (FW = F____ whit (I am sure you get the picture Sad )) comes long and says something that makes you "boil over" which in turn leads you to loose your "friendly" credits with this forum moderator.

So I guess what I am saying, I would love it, if we (we = registered users of Throng) people who have taking the trouble to log on and try and "upgrade" the standards of this Throng forum, if we could self delete stupid anonymous comments to our thread we started, (without asking the Throng moderator to do it for us). In which I would ALWAYS log on to Throng, I would go back into getting in the habit of making intelligent grown up comments here, and there are few F***d up anonymous members that come here I would have great pleasure removing their insulting bonehead comments to MY thread.
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Raa

i have been a caregiver for 6years not with CYFs though but well all children in care from CYFs right??? at the moment i have a child in my care that i have had for the past two years n was asked to consider permanency of them, this i agreed to as long as there were no other family members willing or able to take them in after meeting with their social worker me and others at the meeting were of the understanding that if no other family members were found i would have permanent care of this child…..and the the “procedures changed” (how convinient!) so i go through the permanency process and it is decided i am not good enough to have this child permently i was just good enough to have them “temporarily” for two years…. i know that some children have had really rough childhood but why when you have someone that the children have come to trust and love ship them off to a completly different family for them to start all over again in the two years i have had this child they have only just come to trust me fully and being that they are four raises some real concerns that the social worker doesnt want to hear about er reason ” children learn to adapt”. this child has been in care since she 8 weeks old and before me she was placed in 7 different homes for 7 different reasons. my question is how can u expect this child to grow up and know how to love and care and trust in others after all of this????? i am currently taking CYFs to court to gain custody of this child and i pray to god that the judge rules in my favor!!!
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Michelle Stewart

Anonymous now thats a pile of ****, you have no idea what you are on about. I know from my own personal experience that these cold hearted Nazi CYFFS criminals lie and cheat us out of our childrens lives from the very moment that we start to stand up for yourselfs and the wrong and injustice that they do to us. JAZZ what a great and honest comment, I commend you because you know the truth of the matter. CYFFS lie, steal, break up and murder innocent children, cause many suicides and use good parents who have done no wrong as scapegoats to justify their evil hidden adgenda. CYFFS are sick, twisted, perverted, pycopaths from hell, and I have had a guts full of their lies and slander. The Australian Government are now apoligizing and saying that they are sorry for the cruel inhumaine illegal uplifts of a whole generation of Aborigine children, stolen in the 1960's. They are now compensating their victims. I think it's about time that the New Zealand Government should own up to the terrible injustice of the removal of children who are safe, well, healthy, thriving and well adjusted. So many innocent parents have been robbed of their children because of untrue, malicious false allegations, not to mention the evil lies of these corrupt civil servants, these Nazi Witch lying SS social workers. I will never accept the fact that our precious taxes are paying for a lying pack of assholes like CYFFS and their Nazi helpers, shrinks, psychoilogists, who write up false assessments inside the family court. Yep the child-stealing trade sure is big business in NZ, it's costing the country a fourtune. Meanwhile these Nazi Satanic CYFFS line their pockets and expose our innocent children to a lifetime of abuse. Shame on you CYFFS, may you have blood on your hands, may you CYFFS burn in hell for all eternity. Protect the children, "OVER MY DEAD BODY", you do more like line your pockets with money and collect your B., and get your quota for the year, while the ones you leave behind suffer the pain of injustice, and scrimp and half-pie starve. Wouldn't this money be far better spent on health and education and not a Nazi Witch Hunt by a Modern Day Gestapo that is insane with madness, lies and corrupt power. Making innocent families criminals without trial nor hearing. Gee even a murderer gets the right to a trial in the district court, and legal representation to go with it. With CYFFS it's only their side of the story that gets told, and it's all untrue and negative rubbish. CYFFS use kids for their own selfish cause, they chew them up and spit them out, they destroy their lives and once they turn 17 they have have many emotional battle-scares, a lot end up on psycharatric drugs, get into crime, booze, prostitution, illict substances. As my GP once told me 2 false whittnessess and CYFFS have you stuffed. On and then not to forget to put the finishing touches on their evil plan they get false psycharatric and psychologists who work for them to railroad their victims and make it all nice and neat for them. You see I'm really not that stupid. I have independant psy reports that clear me from the negative ones that CYFFS produced, and the Family Court does not even want to acknowledge them. I can prove cross-filing, I can also prove that I am not a drug addict with blood tests. I can also prove that I never harmed nor neglected my children, even they can tell you that. CYFFS have so much selfish pride that they just can't admitt that hey sometimes perhaps they listened to jealous villians that got the ball rolling for them, and then to cover their smelly assess they back up the original lies with lies of their own. CYFFS just can't admitt to the fact that perhaps they got it wrong. I don't need CYFFS insulting my intelligence, lying or telling me how I should raise my children. CYFS breech the human rights act and the Treaty of Waitangi. I shall never rest in peace until I see all social workers who have lied in court under oath be held accountable and charged accordingly unto our Laws.

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Michelle Stewart

Kerry has no idea what she's talking about. The part that I liked the best is that she said she personally had never had any dealings with CYFFS. Well I feel her comments are just plain arrogance, they are rude, insulting and hurtful to many innocent parents and children who have suffered negative intervention at the hands of a corrupt modern day GESTAPO, such as CYFFS. CYFFS constantly lie and cheat their way through the family court. They hate anyone who tries to have the guts to stand up to them. Their court appointed psychological assessments are always rigged and frauded. This is the cruel and inhuman way that they write anyone that they victimise through their corrupt and perverted sick system. CYFFS are causing so many suicides. They sit up there in their Ivory Towers creating false horror stories, anything that pleases them. This Gestapo seem to enjoy in inflicting so much pain and suffering. CYFFS delight in targeting solo mothers. Mental Heath is one of their favorite excuses for removing children from their safe and loving homes. Children are often removed on heresay, unfounded allegations, lies, vendettas, malicious notifications,no proof of abuse whatsoever, if's, but's, mights, and maybes. Everything said to CYFFS gets twisted and taken right out on context. They interview children behind their parents backs then turn around and spitefully lie and put words into their mouths which simply are not true. I refuse to bow down to a system of fear. There's 2 sides of a coin so there must be 2 sides to every story. Why are only CYFFS expressing their selfish side when they never tell one single ounce of truth. Kerry W. girl wake up. Care to do some research, and hey I wouldn't even call them social workers, I'de refer to them as low-life Nazi SS lying thugs who destroy innocent lives. Social Work is all about empowerment. CYFFS are so cold hearted, they lie about everything. CYFFS are the ones who need to be shut down. Kerry do yourself a favour honey and do some solid research, you might be surprized in what you may find. CYFFS are hard out vindictive and EVIL.

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jazz

I think that free speach should be allowed ,and parents who have already lost so much ,should not have to go through more trauma if their names were used.Do not judge all people in one boat. wear someones elses shoes for once ,everyone take responsibility including CYFs workers who have wrongfully taken children from loving parents,placed children in abusive foster homes,and whats sad is they haven,t tackled the abusers that have killed children. Its a shame on goverment that they have given CYFs the power to play god and judge,and yet when a person tries to stand up for themselves and children,along comes goverment and shuts downs a safe way for them to vent their concerns and deal with their pain.I don,t think its a personal attack,it,s self defence

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Rachel

I realise the majority of her column was about the CYFS blog and her concerns with it. But again she says:

"For that reason, the site should be shut down. Along with any site that doesn't identify its contributors."

Any site.

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Anonymous

I think you mis-read Kerre's article, or at least are taking it out of context.

She's talking about a site which makes personal attacks against specific social workers, her main stance is that, anonymous posts on sites such as that make it easy to lie based on a personal agenda, check this quote:

"When these hapless individuals aren't prepared to take responsibility for the mess they've made of their lives, is it any wonder they shoot the messenger? Instead of blaming the social workers for the fact that the girl you chose to have a child with is a P addict, how about asking whether you might be, at least, a co-author of your own misfortunes."